Wednesday, October 29, 2008


Salamun alaikum

Today I will share my new found thoughts on fasting ("asshiyaamu"). As you may have understood I do not follow the majority of Muslims. I have rather distanced myself from their erroneous beliefs. There are many persons and groups I have been guided by; links are given on my site. I do follow the Quran and truly believe it to be FULLY detailed as Allah state there.

We Muslims have just finished fasting in the month of Ramadan; ie. not eating and drinking from sunrise to sunset for 30 days. This is what the majority understand as fasting. So what does the Holy Quran say about fasting:

2:183. O you who believe, fasting ("asshiyaamu") has been decreed for you as it was decreed for those before you, perhaps you may be righteous.

2:184. A few number of days; however, if any of you is ill or traveling, then the same number from different days; and as for those who can do so but with difficulty, they may redeem by feeding the needy. And whoever does good voluntarily, then it is better for him. And if you fast it is better for you if you knew.

2:185. A month, Ramadhan (marked by heat), in which the Quran was revealed; as a guide to the people and a clarification of the guidance and the criterion. Therefore, whoever of you witnesses the month, then let him fast therein. And whoever is ill or traveling, then the same number from different days. God wants to bring you ease and not to bring you hardship; and so that you may complete the count, and glorify God for what He has guided you, that you may be thankful.

2:186. And if My servants ask you about Me, I am near answering the calls of those who call to Me. So let them respond to Me and believe in Me that they may be guided.

2:187. It has been made lawful for you during the night of fasting ("assiyaami") to approach your women sexually. They are a garment for you and you are a garment for them. God knows that you used to betray your souls so He has accepted your repentance, and forgiven you; now you may approach them and seek what God has written for you. And you may eat and drink until the white thread is distinct from the black thread of dawn; then you shall complete the fast ("assiyaama") to the night; and do not approach them while you are devoted in the temples. These are God’s boundaries, so do not transgress them. It is thus that God makes His revelations clear to the people that they may be righteous.

  • Why do we fast? To celebrate that Allah sent the Holy Quran to Mohammed, peace and blessings be upon him.
  • Ramadan; the word means early autumn 2:185.
  • So the fast should be inside a month in early autumn. The Quran surah 17:12 tells us about the day and night and the sun as timing devices. That means the calendar system according to Allah’s deen is a solar one. Therefore the Ramadan should be at the same time every year. A year is defined as the Earth rotating around the sun one full circle. A day is defined as the earth rotating around itself in relation to the sun one circle.
  • How long should we fast, 2:184 say clearly a few numbered days, and one night (2:186).

So my conclusion is that fasting is two days with the night in between.

But dear reader does it really say “Do not eat during the day”? Is it not a serious business if Allah commands us to do or not to do anything? The whole Quran is full of no-nonsense commands and guidance in clear language. So does "asshiyaamu" really mean fasting (not to eat and drink during the day)?

19:26 So savour* it, and relax, and when you see anyone, then say, "I have pledged to the Almighty a "syauman"; therefore I shall not converse, today to anyone.'"

From the above verses it is easy to figure out what Mary was saying, and what her actions were in keeping with her pledge. Was she 'fasting' in the ordinary way? By Aidid Safar (

Below are the other verses mentioning fast.

4:92. And it is not for a believer to kill another believer except by accident. And whoever kills a believer by accident, then he shall set free a believing slave, and give compensation to the family; except if they remit it. If he was from a people who are enemies to you, and he was a believer, then you shall set free a believing slave. And if he was from a people between whom you had a covenant, then a compensation to his family, and set free a believing slave.Whoever does not find, then the fasting of two months sequentially as a repentance from God; God is Knowledgeable, Wise.

5:89. God will not hold you for your unintentional oaths, but He will hold you for what oaths you have made binding; its cancellation shall be the feeding of ten poor from the average of what you feed your family, or that you clothe them, or that you free a slave; whoever cannot find shall fast for three days; this is a cancellation for making your oaths when you swear. And be careful from making oaths. It is such that God clarifies for you His revelations that you may be thankful.

33:35. Surely, the submitting men, and the submitting women, the believing men, and the believing women, the obedient men, and the obedient women, the truthful men, and the truthful women, the patient men, and the patient women, the humble men, and the humble women, the charitable men, and the charitable women, the fasting men, and the fasting women, the men who keep covered their private parts, and the women who similarly keep covered, and the men who commemorate God frequently, and the commemorating women; God has prepared for them a forgiveness and a great recompense.

58:4. If he cannot find any, then he shall fast two consecutive months before any sexual contact between them. If he cannot, then he shall feed sixty poor people. That is so you would believe in God and His messenger. And these are the limits set by God. The disbelievers have incurred a painful retribution.

Can you find the command not to eat and drink during the day here? I can not.

So is fasting rather to withdraw to your sanctuary or temple for two days, not to idle talk, but to pray, read the Quran and draw close to Allah? I leave this to you my dear reader to answer, but make sure when seeking guidance you use the only fully detailed book on these matters, namely the Holy Quran


Anonymous said...

So my conclusion is that fasting is two days with the night in between.

Enak banget bu, puasa cuman 2 hari :-)

pertanyaan saya:
Dulu Nabi Muhammad SAW berpuasa berapa lama dibulan ramadhan ?
Bagaimana dengan ayat2 tentang lailatulqadar di Alquran yang mengisyaratkan datang di malam2 ganjil?

Kalau cuman 2 hari dan 1 malam, tidak ada dong malam lailatulqadar seperti yang disebut di Alquran ?:-)

Mohon penjelasan&
Budi Mulia

~tanty~ said...

Salamun alaikum Budi Mulia,

First nobody knows exactly what Muhammed pbuh did in relation to fasting, yes we have the legends of Hadith, but the ONLY sure thing we can know is found in the Quran.

And about the Laylat Al-Qadr (the Night of Excellence/ the Night of Decree) when the Quran was reveled, it is just ONE night. Below are the verses:

97:1. We have sent it down in the Night of Decree.
97:2. And do you know what is the Night of Decree?
97:3. The Night of Decree is better than one thousand months.
97:4. The Angels and the Spirit come down in it by their Lord’s leave to carry out every matter.
97:5. It is peaceful until the coming of dawn.

So again, you may hold on to a thousand Hadiths from any source you want, but if you read what I wrote and the verses from the Quran, what you believe has no basis. Yes you follow the majority and I am sure you follow your ancestors, and most of all I am sure you consider yourself a good Muslim. Too bad it seems that my verses from the Quran offend and go against your faith.

I hope you read the whole article not just the title or the conclusion. How is your English by the way?


Anonymous said...

First nobody knows exactly what Muhammed pbuh did in relation to fasting.
Thanks Tanty for your response.

In Alquran its clearly mentioned that ramadhan is a name of month:-(
we must fasting in a month,
not 2 days like yours:-))

Its very2 strange if you said that the people who live at the same time with Muhammed pbuh even didnt know how long his fasting:-))
come on !!!

Maybe next time you will say that you dont do others moslem activities, because nobody exactly know what Muhammed pbuh did hihihi:-))

im sorry,
My english is not so good lah:-)

Bahr said...

Salamun Aleikum
Ramadan is a time of the year that was later put as a name of a month. Clearly from the Quran one see that it is the sun not the moon that is the timing device.
You clearly don't try to understand, you just throw up simple statements in stead of good arguments if you dissagree.
Tanty did not say that the people at the time of the prophet pbuh did not know how to fast, she said that WE don't know what they did. We have the Quran and Hadith, they are in dissagreement, I follow the Quran as the true source, you follow tradition and Hadith. So why don't you TRY to argue from the Quran???

Read also:
http://www.quranic. org/quran_ article/3/ not_reform_ but_return_ to_the_quran. htm

Bahr said...

Salamun Aleikum
Sorry, spellingmistake on URL/link. Aboe is the correct one.
I copy the below from their site, please go and read their articles.

The word sahaba is used for all Muslim individuals who had the privilege of seeing the Prophet, even from a distance. This definition of Bukhari has received general acceptance. In the well-known hadith compilations, the honesty, the reliability of the memory, and the faith of persons who claim to have heard a certain saying of Muhammad reported were questioned to check the veracity of the allegation or for rejection of testimony. Yet, no one’s lifetime would suffice for the examination as to honesty, reliability of memory and checking of other qualifications of reporters up until the third century AH.

Abu Shame said: “Views on transmitters of hadiths present great diversity; while a particular transmitter is the most reliable one among others for some, for others he happens to be the most accomplished liar.” For instance, he may be a trustworthy transmitter according to Ikrim and Bukhari, but a perjurer for Muslim. This instance may be multiplied. Among these the most striking example may be Bukhari’s refusal to include in his compilation any of the traditions transmitted by Abu Hanifa as he declared him to be one of the most unreliable of transmitters. The founder of the foremost representative and revered figure of traditional Islam happens to be unreliable according to the most prominent compiler of hadiths. The contradictory accounts encountered about hadiths, subject of controversy, among members of the board of examiners, abounds, and are as many as those existing between the hadiths themselves. We refrain from going into detail, as it is useless and may be tiresome.

All these hadiths were first attributed to the companions of the Prophet as the last link in the chain of information, to be eventually traced back to the Prophet. Persons, who came after the companions, also became a bone of contention even though they were ultimately questioned. Nowhere in the Quran do we encounter a passage where it is said that every person who saw the Prophet is a reliable person. Quite the reverse is the case, many of those who confessed to be confirmed Muslims were censured. The Quran states also that the hypocrites had infiltrated the community of true believers. It is said that not even the Prophet knew all of the double-dealers (9 Repentance, 101). One cannot imagine how the hadith imams may have distinguished them, given the fact that not even the Prophet could tell them apart. How can they assert that what they accepted as reliable was, in fact, not worthy of confidence? Can one claim that these people knew what the Prophet did not know, 200 hundred years after his death? The clashes and accusations of infidelity among some of the companions are evidence that the self-styled companions also may not have been trustworthy after all. The mentality that hypothesizes the fact that a companion should be considered ipso facto a reliable source is liable to err. As G.H.A. Juynboll has pointed out, if the assumption that the companions are trustworthy people is challenged, the logic behind the structure of hadiths would go on the rocks. We shall be dealing with this issue when we take up the case of contrivers of hadiths.

~tanty~ said...

Salaam BM,

Did you read Quran? I mean really read it with understanding not just reciting it? In your understanding, how do you interpret the verse below:

2:184. A few number of days; however, if any of you is ill or traveling, then the same number from different days; and as for those who can do so but with difficulty, they may redeem by feeding the needy. And whoever does good voluntarily, then it is better for him. And if you fast it is better for you if you knew.

Please read again my article and think about it.

BTW, from your IP address I can see that you live in Stavanger. Do I know you? Maybe we can meet and discuss this and other things about Islam in person.